Peaceful Profits Podcast Ep. 72 - How to “Fall Back In Love” With Your Business
Synopsis:
In this deeply insightful episode of the Peaceful Profits Podcast, Chanelle interviews Raquel Deville—therapist, yoga teacher, and specialist in occupational health—who helps neurodivergent individuals overcome chronic pain, stress, and anxiety so they can sleep better and unlock their true potential.
Raquel shares how discovering her own neurodivergence led her to develop a unique, circular healing framework that integrates trauma-sensitive yoga, somatic practices, and TRE (Tension & Trauma Releasing Exercises). She also reveals how Peaceful Profits helped her fall back in love with her business by creating structure without sacrificing creativity.
Listeners will learn how Raquel designed her seasonal, intuition-led business model that blends body awareness, therapeutic tools, and business systems—proving that success can come from joy, embodiment, and trust in your own process.
Transcript:
Peaceful Profits Review: How to “Fall Back In Love” With Your Business
[00:00:00] Chanelle: Hello, Peaceful Profits nation. Chanelle here with an exciting client spotlight episode for you today. So today we are talking to our client Raquel Deville. Raquel is a therapist and yoga teacher, a former HR manager specialized in occupational health. She helps neurodivergent persons overcome pain, stress, and anxiety.
[00:00:21] Chanelle: So they find inner peace and restful sleep to unlock their unique abilities. This is such a unique. It's a [00:00:30] statement for your business. I love both the specificity of who you help and how you help them. And I want to dive into that a little bit off at the beginning. So to start off, can you explain a little bit more about the idea of neurodivergence and what that is?
[00:00:46] Chanelle: What does that term refer to?
[00:00:48] Raquel: You can use either neurodivergence or neurodiversity. So neurodiversity, it's maybe a better term for the concept. And it's it's quite a recent concept [00:01:00] that is about, let's say, 10 years old, I think, from what I read. History, it's not really my thing.
[00:01:06] Raquel: And basically like neurodiversity, it's much, much like. Biodiversity. So you have all the different plants with all the different flowers, the same way we human beings, we all have a very different look like from one person to the other, and the same happens with the way of functioning. So how our brain works.
[00:01:29] Raquel: [00:01:30] So basically it's the whole human mental or psychological neurological structures or behaviors. That are seen as not necessarily problematic, but as an alternate, acceptable form of human biology. It's this acceptance that actually people's brains are made. They are different and they will have like different abilities and behavior and I hope this is understandable.
[00:01:59] Chanelle: [00:02:00] Yeah, it is. That makes sense. So in the past neuro diverse neuro diversity was called. something else. We didn't understand it. Like you said, it's maybe 10 years new or something along those lines. I also don't know the history of how long that's been, but in the past, it wasn't accepted, we looked at it differently.
[00:02:22] Chanelle: Yes.
[00:02:23] Raquel: It's still I'm not sure it's all, it's looked totally different now, but there's [00:02:30] a, like a more, a positive approach to this. Neurodivergency, you can consider, for example lots of different things. So you have all the, Everything, the dyslexia, dyslexia, I don't know how you say this in English
[00:02:43] Chanelle: dyslexia,
[00:02:44] Raquel: and dyscalculism, how, I don't know the name dyscalculie in French, and also autism, and ADHD.
[00:02:51] Raquel: All of these are in the in the big pack of, or the big umbrella of neurodiversity. And there's a lot of people [00:03:00] that have a way of functioning that it's different from one another and it's not always perceived in a positive way. So we call, we still call it like syndrome or trouble, I don't know if you call it trouble in English, but there's a lot of syndrome.
[00:03:16] Raquel: Yeah. And used for, to describe. It's all often or used to be often described as like a problem or a sickness or. a syndrome. And [00:03:30] it's not necessarily that. So the neuro diversity approach, it's a more positive approach to different brain functioning.
[00:03:39] Chanelle: Perfect. Okay. Thank you for adding that level of understanding, because I think that's really important to our conversation today.
[00:03:46] Chanelle: So as you were choosing a niche for your business, what led you to choose neuro diverse, neuro divergent people?
[00:03:55] Raquel: So because I'm neurodivergent, okay but I [00:04:00] only found about it recently, like a few years ago. I realized, okay, so I'm different. But the thing is, so is my husband, so we are in this like very neurodivergent environment between us.
[00:04:16] Raquel: So sometimes we don't, we do realize that we are different from a lot of people, but for us it's normal because we are like this and this happens for us every day. But I actually got in some group where, and that's how [00:04:30] I realized that I was neurodivergent because it's like, it was a group of neurodivergent people.
[00:04:34] Raquel: And there was all this energy like flowing and it was like so cool. And then that's when I realized, and then I dropped the subject for a while. And as I'm like specialized in, in trauma trauma sensitive yoga and so on. I started reading about trauma and then from trauma, I realized that there were lots of things that.
[00:04:59] Raquel: We're not [00:05:00] necessarily trauma, but maybe related to the way I function, the way I behave. And from there I started to read a lot and study neurodiversity and started to test and yeah, and now I realized that yeah, I'm in the spectrum and I have lots of different but all is good. So it's fine.
[00:05:20] Raquel: It's you can see it like, Oh my God, I have a problem. Or you can see it like, Oh my God, I have superpowers.
[00:05:25] Chanelle: Yes. Wonderful. And that is a wonderful way to see [00:05:30] it. Now you help people overcome pain, stress, and anxiety. So talk to us about the methods that you use to do that and the structure of your business.
[00:05:42] Raquel: Huh? The structure of my business. I don't know how I can. So I'm like a one woman on for the moment. I'm like gathering a team. And so I, I worked with small groups and one on one. I have a yoga studio that it's like changing [00:06:00] more and more to a, to a center where we address like neurodivergency.
[00:06:07] Raquel: with different practices that are made, that are a mix of like TRE somatic experiencing and yoga. And yeah, so I have my own program that it's a mix of these practices and it works really well. So it's something that evolves with the person, So it's adapted to the [00:06:30] person or the person's practicing, but it also evolves with the person because there's often a change in how the person feels and how the people, the person reacts.
[00:06:44] Raquel: Two things that maybe before caused some stress, but now they don't cause stress anymore because it worked. So then it evolves. I don't know if I'm making sense.
[00:06:53] Chanelle: Yeah, that makes sense. So is a lot of your business in person or is it in person and [00:07:00] online? Is there a mix? Yeah.
[00:07:01] Raquel: It's a lot of in person but also online.
[00:07:05] Raquel: I live online and my business, it's a lot online since the beginning. Then with COVID there was a lot of more online and after COVID, a lot of more in person because there was this need for a feel of connecting with other human beings.
[00:07:22] Chanelle: Yeah. So you mentioned yoga and then TRE and somatic practices, [00:07:30] experiences.
[00:07:31] Chanelle: Tell us a little bit for people who aren't familiar, including myself. What is TRE and somatic experiences?
[00:07:37] Raquel: So there is this person called Peter Levine. So he's very important in the trauma world. And he has like his own method that it's called somatic experiencing. So it's somatic.
[00:07:48] Raquel: therapy. That's very interesting. And in his books, he often mentions tremoring. So it's a natural reaction of the body [00:08:00] and it's used a lot for post traumatic stress, but it can be used for many different things. This tremoring thing and tremoring. So TRE, it's a method that was developed. Using a lot of Peter Levine's theory, and it was a method developed by David Percelli.
[00:08:21] Raquel: And basically, it's you have you do some exercises to to induce tremor in the body. And this tremor will help [00:08:30] you with post traumatic stress and stress in general, but also chronic pain. And it can have very different effects on a person's body, but it helps balancing the autonomic nervous system.
[00:08:44] Raquel: And from there it can have very different results. So I have lots of results with chronic pain, stress, anxiety, and also symptoms related with autoimmune disease and even cancer. Yeah.
[00:08:59] Chanelle: [00:09:00] Wonderful. Now, if you are working with people online, a lot of what you do sounds sounds that it's physical work.
[00:09:08] Chanelle: I can see that easily how that would work in a center in person. How do you do the online portion? If you have clients who are just working online,
[00:09:19] Raquel: it works it's surprisingly, it works really well online. So I usually I use zoom. It's like the and and [00:09:30] I work online. I have most of the time to see the person.
[00:09:33] Raquel: Or the person's in front of me. And we do it online like a normal session in studio, but online, just regular work online. So it's possible so that there's no need of touching or if there is let's say need of touching the person can, you can use self touch. Often it's not necessary. So it works really well.
[00:09:58] Chanelle: Great. Okay. [00:10:00] So in, before we had this conversation, you had mentioned, as we prepared that one of your recent business wins is clarity. So can you elaborate on that for us? What were you unclear about in your business that you have clarity on now?
[00:10:18] Raquel: So the neurodivergency like it, it can You can feel it like a superpower, but there is also like kryptonite.
[00:10:25] Raquel: And my kryptonite is that I get very, so I get easily bored and [00:10:30] distracted. And I really like to develop products and, but once the product is done, for me, it's over and I need to move on to something else. Yeah. It's very hard to stay focused in my business. It's in a logic of making money because I get distracted and bored by other things.
[00:10:49] Raquel: So what happened is that this is one of the reasons actually I joined Peaceful Profits. It's because of this boredom. So somehow I felt that it could [00:11:00] help me with it and it did. So this clarity, it came like that with all the work that I've been doing on myself and on my business. And what happened is that I was bored sometime along the way because, product creation then over.
[00:11:19] Raquel: And it made me fall back in love with my business. And instead of being bored, I actually have fun because I found [00:11:30] a way of having this circular thing going on. And where I don't need to change everything all the time, but I can actually do small changes, but keep this circular structure of not repeating, So there is a structure that kind of repeats itself, but inside I have enough space to create.
[00:11:55] Raquel: Am I making sense?
[00:11:57] Chanelle: Yeah, I think so. I [00:12:00] often say that I really love routine and I love variety. And so what I try to do is have variety within my routine. And that's what I hear you saying. So I do yoga every morning, but I do a different yoga video on YouTube every morning. I'm always changing it up.
[00:12:16] Chanelle: So I still have the variety within the routine. And that's what I hear you saying is you've got the structure, but there are pieces in that structure that are and it's still able to change. Do I have that right?
[00:12:28] Raquel: Exactly. It's perfect. [00:12:30] Thank you for explaining it so well. And basically, so it made me.
[00:12:35] Raquel: Fall back in love with my business. And this made me become very productive. So now it comes like naturally, I wake up with structure and yeah, it's work just flows like flows naturally. So I don't really have to think about it. For example.
[00:12:52] Chanelle: Wonderful. So now we didn't plan this question, so you may need to think for a second, but was there anything [00:13:00] specific in the program that gave you that clarity that allowed you to have what you needed, which is both the structure and the freedom?
[00:13:10] Raquel: Yeah, it was. So I still haven't written my book because I was stuck with the framework because I was thinking, like this framework, do I really need to do this? Isn't that important? But then it is important, but I was stuck with it.
[00:13:23] Chanelle: Yeah.
[00:13:23] Raquel: Not because it was difficult to create it, but there was something missing in the [00:13:30] framework.
[00:13:30] Raquel: And then one morning I woke up and I was like, Oh my God. Yeah. So I can see the framework. And it's circular. So basically it's called my, that means more in Portuguese. But also in French if you write it that way, it's Mais, so it means but. And this but is the resistance. And it's this resistance that once you pass it, you have clarity.
[00:13:54] Raquel: And this is what kind of happened with me. So the framework was the resistance. And then I [00:14:00] got the clarity and then I made the framework that for me makes a lot of sense. It's circular. So basically it's what I do in my work. So you have the movement part with yoga and then the adaptation of habits or the life to, to your personal way of functioning.
[00:14:21] Raquel: And then sleep and then there is iteration and said like this it's not doesn't respect the word, but we don't care. So basically [00:14:30] it repeats. All the time, but it's also adaptable every time to the progress that one makes. And basically with this framework, I decided to apply it to everything in my business.
[00:14:43] Raquel: So in my strategy, in the tactics, and then in the calendar for social media, for example, my trainings, everything, and it's circular. So it's very easy suddenly to organize everything.
[00:14:56] Chanelle: Yeah,
[00:14:58] Raquel: because there are tiny [00:15:00] differences, but I know that next year I will have a reminder like saying that I have to do this again.
[00:15:08] Raquel: And I can take notes or change whatever needs to be changed but It's there and I know that it will repeat again and again. So I don't really have to lose energy thinking about it.
[00:15:21] Chanelle: That's beautiful. That is so powerful. The clarity that you've gained is not just a single aha moment [00:15:30] for, Oh, this is how I need to structure my outcome statement or something like that.
[00:15:34] Chanelle: It's clarity for how the business flows. And it's been very interesting hearing you talking and seeing how in your mind, it's not just, the next step, it's the pattern of next steps on down the line that you know what you need to do in your business today and tomorrow and next year it will repeat and it goes on.
[00:15:54] Chanelle: And so that is very powerful. When you talk about clarity.
[00:15:59] Raquel: It's, yeah, but [00:16:00] it's like this clarity that, that comes from within.
[00:16:04] Chanelle: Yeah.
[00:16:05] Raquel: And it came because I was stuck with the framework for the book. And I was also stuck with the book. Now it's just I just have to find times and so I'm organizing everything so I can finally write the book.
[00:16:17] Raquel: Because I have Three different ideas, one for each part of the the framework. So one book per framework, but yeah, I'm diverging like this. No, sorry.
[00:16:28] Chanelle: No, it's wonderful. We're [00:16:30] excited to keep tabs on your book. And as that comes out and you have that to share also, and it's exciting to see how these pieces are coming together.
[00:16:38] Chanelle: To make that a simpler process. Now, I want to ask you what specific strategies that you've implemented in your business have helped you to see the most results. This can be client results. This can be results of, making money in your business, bringing in clients, whatever that is, whatever that means to you, but what specific [00:17:00] strategies have helped you to see those results?
[00:17:04] Raquel: I don't know how to explain it because I don't really think in terms of strategy. And for the moment I'm distracted with putting everything together. So basically this framework allowed me to define my strategy that is also circular. Okay. And it's divided in seasons. Basically everything comes from there.
[00:17:26] Raquel: So there are these parts of the year where I [00:17:30] so in summer, it's like not the beginning of the year, but it's how I start to prepare the beginning of the year. So it's when I rest and it allows me really to think about it and start talking about what I do. So I usually start in September, October, and then it's when I basically not really launch, but talk about what I do so people can start working with me.
[00:17:55] Raquel: And then basically what I do is I work like a school [00:18:00] year here in Belgium with people and yeah, and I don't know how to explain this, but it's very it's very season related, so I do different things in with the different seasons. Respecting this like circle thing.
[00:18:16] Chanelle: Yeah. Okay.
[00:18:17] Chanelle: Wonderful. Now we love to get your advice because you've had success with your business and you're where a lot of people hope to be, right? They, when people are just getting started, it's [00:18:30] very inspirational to see people who have made some strides in their business. And so can you tell our audience, what is the number one piece of advice you'd like to share with others who are on a similar journey to you?
[00:18:43] Raquel: So for me, what worked was to connect with my body. So basically we tend, especially neurodivergent people to spend a lot of time inside the head. And when you come to the body, to the sensation it really allows [00:19:00] you to create head space. So stop the head noise and create some space. So basically my advice would say to feel.
[00:19:11] Raquel: understand and respect how your brain and body work, both of them. And once you feel it, especially in the body, move from that place, move from there, move from what you feel in your body. Because most of the time, [00:19:30] I don't want to be radical and say every time, but most of the time, the body is right. And it's what you feel in the body that Can guide you through life and this is where I feel my clarity.
[00:19:44] Raquel: It's like something that comes from within the body, not from the head. If I'm making sense of it.
[00:19:52] Chanelle: Yes, I think that does make sense. I think that what I'm hearing is this idea of we get so many ideas even [00:20:00] if you're in a program like Peaceful Profits, you have a pathway and you know which way to go.
[00:20:04] Chanelle: You need to, there has to be some kinds of a translation of what does this mean for me? What does this mean for my business? How do I actually make this work? And we have to be connected enough to know what we're feeling and what feels right. So you're talking about, doing that with a body movement kind of thing.
[00:20:29] Chanelle: [00:20:30] But I think that it comes down to that in intuition and that inner knowing and that connection between whatever is coming out, whatever outward stimulus and what we feel is right for us. Did I get that right at all?
[00:20:46] Raquel: It's like the gut feeling.
[00:20:48] Chanelle: Yes.
[00:20:50] Raquel: And for my business, it works really well. So I decided to do only what actually pleases me, where I have fun and pleasure doing, and and [00:21:00] I let my body decide.
[00:21:01] Raquel: So when I have to take a decision, I really. leave it to the intuition. I take a shower, it relaxes me. And usually I have like an answer, very obvious to my questions due to this, but it comes from within. I don't know how to explain it. If I think about it, it's, I prefer not to think about it.
[00:21:22] Raquel: Leave it on the side and wait for the thing to come up in a situation where unusually relaxed. [00:21:30]
[00:21:30] Chanelle: Perfect. I have heard you several times throughout this episode mention the word fun, and I love it that you're having fun. Businesses can be fun, and thank you for exemplifying that and showing that the way that you're doing it Is fun.
[00:21:45] Chanelle: Now, I would love to wrap up this episode with you sharing how listeners can find out more about you and if they're interested, work with you and learn more about what you're up to.
[00:21:56] Raquel: So they can find me online. So I work mainly [00:22:00] in French. I do have websites, but all in French. So I'm not sure it will work for a English speaker.
[00:22:07] Raquel: So they can find me on, on, on Transcribed by Facebook, LinkedIn, as by my name, by Raquel Deville, I'm there and then message me. It's very easy.
[00:22:22] Chanelle: Okay. Wonderful. And thank you so much for sharing with us today for all of the things that you [00:22:30] have, know, instructed us on in your business and for sharing these personal.
[00:22:36] Chanelle: Things that you've learned and how you've implemented them in your business. We appreciate it. Thank you, Raquel. Thank you everyone for listening. If you are interested in growing your business, like Raquel has showed us that she has done today, you can schedule a call at PeacefulProfits.com/call.
[00:22:53] Chanelle: Thank you all for being here and we'll see you next time. Bye.