Peaceful Profits Podcast Ep. 43 - How Ros Successfully Sold A New Coaching Offer To A Brand New Audience In Less Than 2 Weeks
Synopsis:
What if you could sell a brand-new coaching program to a completely new audience—in under two weeks?
In this Peaceful Profits success story, guardian angel communicator and author Ros Place shares how she pivoted from an offer that wasn’t converting, refined her audience, and enrolled nine women into her “Peaceful Purpose” beta program at £999 each.
With guidance from Mike Shreeve’s Peaceful Profits program, Ros reveals the keys to quickly validating offers, mastering follow-up, and building a coaching business that feels joyful, sustainable, and in alignment with your true purpose.
Transcript:
Peaceful Profits Review: How Ros Successfully Sold A New Coaching Offer To A Brand New Audience In Less Than 2 Weeks
[00:00:00] Zach: Hello, Peaceful Profits nation Zach here with an exciting client spotlight interview for you today. Today we're talking to our client, Ros Place, who is a mom, a wife, she's an author and a guardian angel communicator, and she currently resides at Sheffield South Yorkshire with her husband, Eddie and their boys, Zed and Manny.
[00:00:19] Zach: Now, what she does here, folks, is she helps women uncover their strengths and develop their talents so that they can focus on their calling. And Ros, how are you doing today? I appreciate you being on the show.
[00:00:29] Ros: [00:00:30] I'm great. Thank you, Zach. Very happy to be here.
[00:00:32] Zach: Yeah, absolutely. Happy to dive into it with you.
[00:00:35] Zach: So you've been in the Peaceful Profits program for the past, goodness, I should say maybe what almost eight months now, eight or nine months. Can you tell me a little bit more about your recent win and some of the greatest successes that you've accomplished in that timeframe?
[00:00:51] Ros: Yeah, I have been. I think it was November that I joined.
[00:00:55] Ros: I was, I'd read the book. I was really excited having read the [00:01:00] book and I'd read the book many times and I've listened to the audio book many times. And it was you I spoke to, wasn't it Zach, when we had our lovely chat on the phone to find out whether it was going to be a good fit for me and a good fit for you.
[00:01:14] Ros: And. It has been amazing. It's been everything that I hoped it would be and more. In terms of wins, I came in to the program thinking that I was going to share one offer and [00:01:30] I was really excited about the offer that I wanted to share. It felt really, it was really heartfelt. I felt excited about it.
[00:01:39] Ros: I did lots of had chats and with, the coaches inside of the group. And I then presented it to my audience because a big part of what I've really benefited from in Peaceful Profits is that you test out your offer. And that's been priceless to me because in the past I've been a very excited entrepreneur, [00:02:00] somebody who has great ideas.
[00:02:02] Ros: Of course they are because they're my ideas and
[00:02:04] Zach: I
[00:02:05] Ros: go away behind the scenes and I do all this work and I create this fantastic thing and then I present it to people and it sometimes resonates and I've had success in the past but it's always fallen short and part of it I think is because When you haven't tested out an offer, which I never had done before, you don't have complete confidence in it.
[00:02:27] Ros: And so you don't know whether you should persist. You don't [00:02:30] know whether you need to pivot and change things. So I came in with one offer, tested it out with my existing audience. And they loved the offer, but they didn't have the financial means. So I then had hit a hurdle and I was like these guys love this offer, but they don't have the financial means.
[00:02:48] Ros: What do I do? Do I persist with that? And I think you and I had a funny chat, through one of the Q and A's and I was like, it was actually grumpy daddy that wouldn't get his wallet out and pay for the program that [00:03:00] his wife or partner and their child would really, benefit from.
[00:03:05] Zach: With our audience real quick, what was your offer where you were running into that obstacle?
[00:03:10] Ros: So the offer was for mums. to help their sons by revealing their strengths to them. I found that I've got two boys. And I found the work, them knowing their guardian angels and therefore them knowing their strengths has been priceless. And for me to [00:03:30] understand those as well, so that I can adapt the way that I parent them when you know what their strengths are, when you understand their natural talents.
[00:03:40] Ros: much more of an understanding of who they are other than what's just on the surface. So it was created for moms to understand their sons and to work with their sons to bring out their strengths. And it was called sunshine. It had a lovely name. S O N shine, sunshine.
[00:03:56] Zach: It's a good play on words.
[00:03:58] Ros: I was so I've never had, I've [00:04:00] never had a name that good.
[00:04:01] Ros: And I bought the domain name and everything. And I was totally excited. And the moms were So in tears about it, they were so full of, they wanted it, they were, they knew it was needed, but the dads ultimately were the ones in these, in this kind of demographic that were paying out for that that offer and it just wasn't hitting home.
[00:04:22] Ros: So I had, I've had this in my business before where I've had a great offer, but there hasn't been. The financial kind of like
[00:04:28] Zach: they didn't have the ability [00:04:30] to be able to invest the scope of it probably wasn't there. Yeah
[00:04:33] Ros: It absolutely it didn't the one that was paying the person that was paying the money Just did not it wasn't a big enough pain point for the person that was paying money because ultimately dads very often Still the ones that leave the house and when the kids are young The mum is very often the one that is left to deal with all of the issues and challenges.
[00:04:51] Ros: And of course, there are wonderful partnerships where all of that is shared. But what I found was that often where there were challenges, [00:05:00] sometimes that dynamic was challenged in other ways. So anyhow I was really upset about that because I was really personally invested in that, but I could have persisted with it if I didn't.
[00:05:10] Ros: So I stood, I stepped back and then identified a new. audience which I knew had the financial means. And I just really, and they were really keen, but I just did not feel it. I just was not enthusiastic about the offer. And you know yourself, Zach, if you While doing something, you've got [00:05:30] to care about what you're doing and the work and effort that's required means that you've got to be able to give yourself fully to it.
[00:05:36] Ros: So I took another step back and then I created an offer, which is helping women to discover their unique strengths and reveal their natural talents. So that they can uncover their true calling in life so that they can do all the things that they've come here to do and be who they've come here to be because so many women are so aware of their [00:06:00] shortcomings and it distracts them completely from what they are great at and what they do really well.
[00:06:06] Ros: And the win was that once I'd identified this audience and tested it out, spoken to members of the group spoken to the coaches in the group, got some great feedback. I then went through the process, which Peaceful Profits really guides you through in terms of having those discovery calls and chatting to people and just finding out how you can be helpful.
[00:06:26] Ros: And all of those scripts are just so amazing that just [00:06:30] guide you through the process. And I really discovered so much through that. And I enrolled nine wonderful women into the beta program, nine for 999 into the beta program.
[00:06:42] Zach: Yeah,
[00:06:42] Ros: which was amazing. And it was easy. Once I was clear and confident and enthusiastic about what I wanted to do.
[00:06:50] Ros: And we're going through the beta program now, and I've just. I'm on the book writing stage now, and I've just completed a sales page for so that I can be ready for [00:07:00] welcoming others into peaceful purpose, as it is called. I love
[00:07:05] Zach: it. Love it. Through that process a little bit, because I think what's probably very relatable for a lot of people who are probably listening to this is the fact that Your first offer, or you putting something out there may not be the one that will actually work.
[00:07:18] Zach: And unfortunately, a lot of people may give up, fold, and quit when one offer doesn't take off. And I think what I noticed in your journey was, when something didn't quite work, [00:07:30] you quickly pivoted, and then you tried something else. In other words, it wasn't really failure, it was just feedback. And, That for a lot of people, I believe is something that they need to hear, right?
[00:07:41] Zach: That may be something that you are so on board with may not necessarily be what takes off. And so can you describe your experience and maybe, how many times or how many tries it took before you found the right offer and you could match it up with the right audience? In getting the results that you got,
[00:07:59] Ros: I [00:08:00] think that is something that all is a symptom of being an entrepreneur, people or people who want to create businesses, creatives, they're very excited about the creative process and what they offer and they can become very attached.
[00:08:15] Zach: Yeah.
[00:08:16] Ros: To what they're offering. And they can take it very personally when something doesn't pan out the way that they expected it to. And it can be a reason to give up. It can be a reason to just, decide to [00:08:30] focus on something else or so yeah, it's definitely something that I think a lot of people experience, particularly those who are creating their own businesses.
[00:08:38] Ros: It took me three times. And the core of what I offered really didn't change too much. It was really who I was presenting it to and how I was presenting it, the language that I was using. So it's playing around with it. It's refining it. It's trying not to be attached. It's looking at what you have and looking at the pieces that [00:09:00] work and not, Throwing the whole thing away, keeping the bits that you can work with, and adjusting, pivoting, it's, yeah it felt good to be able to do that, and it felt good to know that, Zac, I think in business, very often, and that's one thing about, that I have to say about this program is that, Not only has it enabled me to create something I care about and share enough with people that I just love helping.
[00:09:26] Ros: And it's a joy. It's [00:09:30] also meant that I've avoided so many of the pitfalls that have really just derailed me in the past by. presenting an offer that people don't understand or to people who it doesn't resonate with or haven't got the funds for, it just really clarifies things for you. So I have saved Years of time, buckets of blood, sweat and tears and really thousands and thousands, [00:10:00] quite sincerely thousands and thousands of dollars on trying to make something work, which just was never going to work.
[00:10:07] Ros: But I wouldn't have known that.
[00:10:10] Zach: So that's
[00:10:10] Ros: been massive. As much as building the program and having a successful program for me, I would say. Possibly even more than that. It's being able to, that I've been able to identify what wasn't working and very quickly let that go.
[00:10:28] Zach: Yeah, I [00:10:30] believe that what you said right there is so incredibly helpful and true about, letting go and allowing the data or the feedback from the marketplace to determine your next course of action, not necessarily to swallow you up and spit you out and say that you can't do this, but, To give you basically cues on where to turn next.
[00:10:49] Zach: It's almost like you're paddling a boat in a river, right? That's going downstream. And if it's not quite working, you're trying to paddle upstream, right? When in reality, you just need a course, [00:11:00] correct from time to time. And I think, that's what stood out to me about your journey was it didn't work the first time you went through, and I believe so many coaches and entrepreneurs need to hear that.
[00:11:10] Zach: They need to. Sometimes recognize and that's I guess that's a good segue to my next question is what is a good point to recognize you need to pivot. In other words, some people will spend years trying to fight and make an offer or a service work when it just Doesn't quite work or it doesn't quite [00:11:30] resonate with the marketplace.
[00:11:31] Zach: And so what are some of those signs, what are things that they can look out for that they can, from your experience, if they know that about what they're experiencing, then maybe it's time to pivot a little bit. It's time to course correct, as opposed to trying to, keep digging and, spend so much time and money trying to make something work that probably wasn't going to work.
[00:11:51] Zach: So what are some things that people can look out for?
[00:11:54] Ros: I think. A lot of it, unfortunately, does begin with money. Who pays for the [00:12:00] product? Is the person that is paying for the product impacted by the challenge that you're suggesting you can solve or, guaranteeing that you can solve and you can alleviate for that problem.
[00:12:11] Ros: I think that in terms of, really looking at whether or not you can persist with something, it's a feeling. If you speak to lots of people, I know one of the things that Mike says is just you've got to be speaking to people on the phone, like you've got to be talking to people, communicating with people, because unless you're doing that, you're never really advancing, you're never [00:12:30] finding out more, you're never learning.
[00:12:31] Ros: You have got to speak to people and you tend to hit a point in a conversation where yep, no. And if you get to that point and you get to that point consistently, then you need to pay attention to that because something needs to change because either you're not communicating clearly or you're not offering them something that they really want,
[00:12:50] Zach: or
[00:12:51] Ros: they just don't have.
[00:12:53] Ros: It isn't something that they have the funds for. So I think it is a feeling, and it is important to persist, of course it is, and not give up [00:13:00] too soon. It isn't about giving up. It's more about being honest and thinking, I think it's a bit like a relationship, Zach. Like in a relationship that you have with someone that you care about, like we're in the beginning of a new relationship,
[00:13:13] Zach: it
[00:13:14] Ros: shouldn't be hard.
[00:13:16] Ros: You shouldn't be finding it hard in that relationship, when you have a new boyfriend or a new girlfriend in those initial stages, it should just blow, it should be easy. You should, it should be something which has a feeling of just [00:13:30] ease about it. And when it doesn't feel like that, I think you just need to pay attention to that because there's something that's not working.
[00:13:39] Ros: Be honest and don't give, don't think that just because you haven't made it. Work the first time that you won't make it work. It's refining It's finding something that is going to really hit home with people. It's offering something It's discovering something that is the very best that you can offer to people to [00:14:00] solve something.
[00:14:00] Ros: That's really challenging them in their lives So I would say yeah, it's a feeling for me It's okay That's just, that's really feeling like it's too hard. It's not that I'm not a hard worker because I am,
[00:14:16] Zach: but it
[00:14:17] Ros: feels stuck. I'm pushing. And if I'm pushing, there's resistance there. And I don't feel that pushing is something which opens things up.
[00:14:25] Ros: I feel you. I
[00:14:25] Zach: love that. Yeah. There, there's a gracefulness to it, even though [00:14:30] it's challenging. Yeah, there's something intuitive about if it feels right. And. People are responding in kind. Especially if they're responding with pulling out their credit cards and paying for it. That means they then in turn actually believe in what you do, and they are actually walking the talk as opposed to saying, Hey, this sounds good, but I'm not going to do it.
[00:14:50] Zach: And so with, you enrolled nine women into your beta program for this. How many opportunities were that like was [00:15:00] that almost like every. Woman you talked to you basically enrolled. Was it pretty close to that number?
[00:15:05] Ros: Yeah, it was everyone that I spoke with because my process was I had a little google sheet that I set up because I wanted to be really organized about the way that I reached out to people I think that's another thing that's really important in the past when i've had something that I wanted to share with others It would be a little bit hit and miss.
[00:15:24] Ros: I'd send, I'd either send an impersonal email to my mailing list, [00:15:30]
[00:15:30] Zach: which
[00:15:30] Ros: never, it's not, it didn't ever work for me, or it didn't to some degree, or I'd send personal emails to people, but I wouldn't keep any record of who I'd written to when I'd written to them. So it was either or for me, but this time I created an actual list of the clients that I was going to reach out to.
[00:15:49] Ros: And it sounds so basic, but it was a sheet that was like, this is the person's name. This is the date that I've sent the first email. And I personalized an email, which I'd written, which was just a [00:16:00] template. And then I left that for a bit. And then there would be a second and a third. And I basically kept going until they either said, Or some people just didn't reply because they'd moved on and it just wasn't something they were interested in hearing about some people would be would reply and then you'd get, it's just not the right time for me that happens quite a few women I just, I've got too much happening that's on my plate at the moment this is not the right time.
[00:16:26] Ros: So I just went through that process of just following up and just really [00:16:30] personally. Seeing if I can help, really see if I can help. And then having a conversation and finding out what it was that, they were facing and and the process helped me, the spreadsheet. And I made a commitment to myself that every single day, I was going to send a new reach out email.
[00:16:50] Ros: And I was going to follow up every single day. And that I think is what got me the results. Because sometimes I think you send an email to someone, and you might not get a [00:17:00] reply. And you might think, and I think a lot of individuals can feel maybe like they're bothering people or they're being pushy in some way, but it isn't the case because my experience is as a person, sometimes someone will send me an email and I really mean to reply to it.
[00:17:17] Ros: And they'll reply to me just, it will be on my, in my mind or in my diary to reply and they'll just say, Hey, just check it in that you've got the mail and everything's okay. And then it just gives me a chance to just [00:17:30] reply quickly and say, Oh yeah, thank you so much for following up with me. I really did want to speak to you about that.
[00:17:35] Zach: But I
[00:17:35] Ros: think sometimes when people don't get a. a reply immediately or, a reply at all, then sometimes they don't follow up. I think following up is really important and I just think of it as really good service and really showing that you care. People know when you care. People know if you don't care, then there's no, people feel that.
[00:17:55] Ros: But if you sincerely care and if you personalize your approach to [00:18:00] people, you've got to think how you feel when people reach out to you, what hits home for you and what you enjoy and what you've enjoyed. Feel weird about, what doesn't make you feel comfortable. So being consistent was really important.
[00:18:14] Zach: 100%. So consistency, a personalized approach, not to mention having the right offer to the right audience created. It sounds like a sales process that sounded fairly effortless because nine people. Into a beta program. I [00:18:30] believe most people, especially if it's a brand new offer would consider that a success.
[00:18:34] Zach: And how did that win then impact or I guess, change your perspective as to how you do business going forward?
[00:18:40] Ros: Oh, do you know, the first thing that pops into my head is that it gives me so much confidence, but also it's encouraged me to give even more to the program. to give even more of myself to the program.
[00:18:56] Ros: I've set up a follow that [00:19:00] consistent approach and that organized approach. Kaylee was great. I remember saying, I'm going to set up a beta program. What do you recommend? And she was just, she just gave me some very like simple set up this folder and that folder. What it's meant to me is that, I feel a longevity about this program that I've never felt before.
[00:19:18] Ros: And so what I'm doing now, I'm doing properly the first time around, because I then have the pleasure of just being able to fill in the gaps, when I'm going taking people through the program. [00:19:30] It's given me, it's given me a successful business. And it means that I have the joy of being able to speak with people about what it is that I can do to help them and hear about all of their individual challenges, but have a consistent approach.
[00:19:47] Ros: And I've never really had that. I've had the work that I share with people to help them with their guardian angels. But once they had the information, that chance for them to be able to really apply those strengths, [00:20:00] to achieving a goal, to really understanding their true calling, to having a course of action, a process that they can follow.
[00:20:08] Ros: It's exciting to me. It feels so real. Yeah, it's given me a successful business. It's, I feel very secure in, in what I'm doing. It's really enjoyable. It's a nice feeling. It is.
[00:20:21] Zach: It wasn't always like that though, right? Cause you had, like you said earlier, you had tried and pivoted and whatnot.
[00:20:27] Zach: And now it sounds like the next steps is. [00:20:30] Scaling it, writing a book. And I think you indicated that earlier on, tell us a little bit more about that now that you have something that's validated an offer, that's viable, clearly a follow up process and a sales process that works well with you, where you can be yourself, talk to people at that level, what are the next steps now?
[00:20:48] Zach: Tell us a little bit more about, this book that you're writing and what that means for some of the outcomes, in the near future.
[00:20:55] Ros: Yeah. So I've begun the outline for the book [00:21:00] which will introduce people to what it is that I do help them to understand how they can discover their unique strengths.
[00:21:07] Ros: The outline of the book is. It takes time on it, it takes a lot of time, but having that framework means that you can just go through the steps and just like everything in the program, you, I don't mean to keep going on about the program, but it's all there. You just follow.
[00:21:23] Zach: Yeah.
[00:21:24] Ros: You just, sometimes when, I think it's a big, when you think [00:21:30] about joining a program, you might have joined programs before and been disappointed, or you might not trust yourself to take that next step to really give a go, really, Pull out all the stops and really succeed in what it is that you're wanting to do.
[00:21:48] Ros: But everything is inside of the program, the people inside of the community the coaches all the support that you need is there. So with that in [00:22:00] mind, just referring back to that, everything that you need to write the book is there. So I'm going through the process of writing the book, which has been, again, great because.
[00:22:07] Ros: It's helped me to, there are lots of areas of my work with the angels, which has really helped me to communicate in a much clearer way, which has been fantastic. Once my book's ready, then that will be something that I'll be sharing and people will be able to enjoy. My sales page I've now created so that people can book a call.
[00:22:28] Ros: And that was the other thing [00:22:30] about in the initial stages and something that I've done since enrolling people into the beta program is in my bi weekly emails that I send to the people in my community, I just have three little pointers on the bottom. And one of them is, if you would like to discover your unique strengths.
[00:22:47] Ros: if you would like to reveal your natural talents so that you can find your true calling, and uncover your true purpose in life, book a call with me. And that is another thing [00:23:00] as I'm just getting excited thinking about it is so important that I speak with people before they become part of the program.
[00:23:06] Ros: When I first started this, it was like, You have to have a call with someone and the discovery call is where they, you find out whether you're going to be a great fit for each other and then they can enroll into the program. My, my traditional approach was sales page. This is how much it is. You can enroll.
[00:23:25] Ros: But what I've discovered, Is that through [00:23:30] and I have enrolled other people into the program, which is great. Now I've got the beta program up. I'm running it and other clients have now joined the Peaceful Purpose as well, which is absolutely wonderful. So they're going through the program. But it's all been on.
[00:23:43] Ros: we've had a telephone conversation, because it's so important that they, that you connect in that way. And that they know their motivation, and that they understand why they want to do this, and that they trust that you can help them. But they're really clear [00:24:00] about what it is that they want to achieve through your time together.
[00:24:03] Ros: So The reason I'm saying that is because I would have put up, I would have created a sales page prior to having the book funnel, which would lead people to, the book call. But it's not having, there's no price on there and there's no, you can, there's no way of people booking themselves onto the program unless they've had a conversation with me.
[00:24:22] Ros: Because that's such a valuable part of the process. I remember chatting with you, Zach, when I came into the program and I just reflect [00:24:30] back on those calls. I think it was cause I think we spoke a couple of times. So I just enjoyed connecting with you. I enjoyed The whole experience of our conversation and how I felt about coming into the program on the energy of that on the bars of that, and it wasn't that you, because you're very calm person, and you're such a great listener.
[00:24:57] Ros: And you're so positive. It was just [00:25:00] you helping me to work out whether this was something that I really wanted. So that's something I'd really recommend that people do is don't be afraid. Talk to people on the phone. You don't have to have zoom calls. I like my. Conversations to be on the phone, just more relaxed.
[00:25:17] Ros: I don't know why, but I think people do. I think my clients like to talk on the phone because you can have, you can be anywhere and, it's just more relaxed, isn't it? Having to have eye contact can be more, [00:25:30] can be different.
[00:25:30] Zach: Sure.
[00:25:31] Ros: So get people on the phone, just talk to them. Don't be afraid.
[00:25:34] Ros: And
[00:25:35] Zach: when
[00:25:36] Ros: people understand that you really are interested in helping them and that you really care and that you've got something that you want to share with them that can really help them solve challenges that they're facing in their lives. It's just natural. It's just a nice thing to do, isn't it?
[00:25:53] Zach: Yeah, 100%. People want to be here. They want to be understood. And they want to, they want you to [00:26:00] respond because you understand, not responding because, that's just the next question you have in your process. And I think I got, I gathered that from you as well, especially when you're doing This thing, which is ultimately empowering women and helping them to make decisions that are really ultimately going to be beneficial for them, in their best interests. And I think what's nice about this process is that it's not very cut and dry either. It's very circumstantial case by case. And as long as people feel heard and understood [00:26:30] and they trust you, which happens through your book through whatever it is you're offering out there in great detail.
[00:26:37] Zach: I think that's definitely the key, now we're at the, really the favorite part of my, my favorite part of the client spotlight episodes, you're currently a client of ours and, you're getting your book dialed in now. It's just the next step in your business.
[00:26:50] Zach: Can you tell our audience, given everything that we've talked about here, and I know we covered quite a lot, what's the number one piece of advice you'd like to share to others [00:27:00] Who are also working through that process too, with offer creation, writing a book, listening to people and solving problems.
[00:27:07] Zach: What would you tell them?
[00:27:09] Ros: I will tell them that. You don't need to struggle doing it on your own, that there are people that are doing this all the time, that can help you, that you can become part of a community of other people who are doing the same thing, that you really can become part of the program, really sincerely, that will help you.
[00:27:29] Ros: [00:27:30] Support you all the way and you can trust yourself and you can trust them to deliver that to you. And I think that is That's the big thing. It's trust. It's trusting yourself. It's trusting that you'll be able to do It's trusting that the people that you're going to give your time to are there Because they want to help you so don't struggle on your own.
[00:27:52] Ros: There is a process there is a multi layered process, a cohesive framework that [00:28:00] can really get you to where you want to be. And yeah, they I can't say enough. Trust the
[00:28:07] Zach: process. That's wonderful advice. Yeah, I think that's great. The process, I like that because It, that means by default, you're removing yourself, right?
[00:28:17] Zach: Getting out of your own head when it comes to the equation. And if you can just follow something that's objective, that works, that never changes, you're probably going to get those results. And so I think that's great. I really appreciate [00:28:30] you. Telling us a little bit about your story, but not just about the wins, but also the challenges.
[00:28:34] Zach: And I think that's really going to be what people resonate with the most. If there's somebody out there who is trying to get their offer dialed in and they're still banging their head against the wall as to why they're not converting, why they're not working, why it's not translating to people I think that was wonderful wisdom about pivoting about letting the market give you feedback, your intuition as well.
[00:28:56] Zach: Sometimes again, and I will harp on this one more time. You can [00:29:00] be so attached to an idea and love it so much that it's back to that example. You said about a relationship. It's almost like people who stay in abusive relationships. little extreme, but they're like I just love them so much. And I'm not happy.
[00:29:15] Zach: Yeah, even though they're not contributing anything, the relationship, it's like the same thing with the entrepreneur and the marketplace of the market's not giving you anything back, which is their time, attention and ultimately their money, then maybe it's best to move on to something that might [00:29:30] click with them.
[00:29:30] Zach: And so that's excellent to hear. And I will take that to heart because I think that's a good way to look at it.
[00:29:37] Ros: Yeah, go somewhere where you can be shown the love that you deserve. And
[00:29:41] Zach: yeah,
[00:29:41] Ros: because they are valued in what you're just looking in the wrong place. You don't need to put up with an unhappy relationship of that kind because yeah, you just don't, you can move on and you can find people who, yeah.
[00:29:53] Zach: It's very real, in the space that we're in, especially too. So lots of coaches, lots of [00:30:00] business owners are definitely feeling that. Now to wrap up this episode here, Ros, how can our listeners find out more about you and what you're up to?
[00:30:08] Ros: Yeah, I'd love that. So the best place to find out about what I do is ros.
[00:30:13] Ros: place. That's the website address. It's r o s. And then it's dot place, P L A C E. And if you just go along there, then at the top you'll see that my program is called Peaceful Purpose. And you can read all about it there. And I'd love it if you [00:30:30] reached out to me, if you've got any questions. If you want to have have a chat with me, you can contact me there.
[00:30:36] Ros: I'd be delighted to hear from you. I'm also on Facebook. I have a personal page, which is Ros Place. I do have a community as well on Facebook, which is Angels and Oracle. cards with Ros Place. And that's somewhere that you can find me too. But yeah, I'd love to hear from if anyone has any questions about my experience of Peaceful Profits or anything that I can do [00:31:00] to help.
[00:31:00] Ros: And I'm always very willing to help and share because I appreciate what others have done for me. You just pass it on, don't you?
[00:31:07] Zach: That's excellent to hear. And who are the women that you're serving as well? Just so that if there's a woman out there that, is looking to uncover some of their strengths who exactly do you serve and how can you help them?
[00:31:18] Ros: Yeah it's a real range of women in the program. So we have. For example, we have a doctor who works in ICU, and she wants, she's writing a book [00:31:30] about end of life, which she really cares about. We have an editor. Someone who edits books. There's a wonderful woman who is transitioning from the corporate world into wanting to launch her own business as a homeopath.
[00:31:48] Ros: We have others who want to, who are business orientated individuals who are coming out of one business and wanting to, really wanting to discover why it is that they haven't got to where they want to get to. I think a common [00:32:00] theme is women who feel that they're very just so aware of their shortcomings, they're so aware of their weaknesses, and they know that They should be more aware of what they're good at, but they just don't know what that is.
[00:32:14] Ros: And that's how I can reveal that to you.
[00:32:16] Zach: Excellent. Wonderful. Folks, you heard it here. If you are one of those people that is looking for purpose and some more clarity, Ros can definitely help you with that. Again, she's a fantastic client of ours, but she's also wonderful in her [00:32:30] own right with running her business.
[00:32:31] Zach: And Don't hesitate to reach out to Ros at her website. If you are looking for that type of guidance, Ros, I really appreciate your time and for being on the show. Yeah, thank you for being with us and we will catch you all in the next one.
[00:32:43] Ros: It's my pleasure, Zach. Thank you. All
[00:32:45] Zach: right.
[00:32:45] Zach: Thanks everyone.